Bottom line

for the sake of numbers i will round out and estimate
2 rounds of vc financing 2.2 and 3.2 say 5.5 million
5000 cities purchased at $25-$125,000
500 states purchased/registered at 100 each -$50,000
30,000domains registered at 2-4 each 30,000-$120,000
ad revenue per day times 3 years-estimate 100-500 per day take 250 a day times 1095 days -$275,000 total

payouts to members
arrf-13k
weblo invest-9k
cpe-5k
can-4k
industy3k
...ok so totoal weblo money(conservative side)5.7 mil in vc investment and say another mil in user purchases and ad money

6.7 million into a website
paid out maybe $40k once u subtract what money users poured back into the coffer
ok now this doesnt even take in the weblo tax,immigration charges and membership fees..add that in id say its closer to 7.5 million dumped into weblo and hell give them $50k paid out....

Now when i trade stocks i have to do quick on the fly analysis...judging by these numbers would you buy into weblo now?

heres the latest value of the whole weblo.com website 1. weblo.com Estimated Worth $301409.7 USD by websiteoutlook
weblo.com Estimated Worth $301409.7 USD.
..
301k...now hampton or someone tell me where the money went? Dont say into development. weblo is still a rudimentary website that most programmers and web devlopers wouldnt even release as a beta tester, So we all got robbed and we all know it. well i choose not to rob others,and to speak the truth. Weblo has lost its american foothold and canadian foothold and is rapidly becoming a pakistani niche social site. There is no particular attraction to weblo anymore. what we all came for was the lure of being paid for site visits...hell rocky promoted that,that was weblos slogan"we want to pay you for your content".now he has pulled the carrot bait and switch. there are WAy too many other websites that attract a higher number of online users that stick,so Hampton you hanging real estate banners on Sargodha pakistan doesnt quite fly anymore. face it weblos schtick is gone,,its not monopoly anymore,,hell noones buyin nothing...yea they dribble u pennies but i dont quite consider that Pay for contnet..so thats gone...social site? lol,,im not much into chatting with a fake man named beautiful cat,or a overseas spammer named hania,im sure i can find better things to do,oh wait weblo doesnt have a chat system..well...there goes that

heres a wiki list of some other social sites...and reg members..if it doesnt come out search social sites,,,weblo hasnt cracked 100k in 3 years and id say 50k of them are fake accounts..sorry guys dont see the angle here,,,if its ur gig go for it,ill move on to other things...so now weblo has lost as good developers..shaper,arrf,weblo invest,me,even can and steino...so whos gonna build at weblo? hampton u goin to build the world,,,with yavannas same spam on each of her sites about wonder woman and maryln monroe....have it boys and girls
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Registration
Advogato
Free and open source software developers
13,575[2]
Open
Amie Street
Music Open
ANobii
Books
Open
aSmallWorld
European jet set and social elite
270,000[6]
Invite-only

Athlinks
Running, Swimming, Cycling, Mountain Biking, Triathlon, and Adventure Racing 54,270[8]
Open
Avatars United
Online games. Open
Badoo
General, Popular in Europe 13,000,000[10]
Open to people 18 and older
Bahu
General, Popular in France, Belgium and Europe 1,000,000[12]
Open to people 13 and older
Bebo
General. 40,000,000[14]
Open to people 13 and older
Biip
Norwegian Community.
Requires Norwegian phone number.
BlackPlanet
African-Americans 20,000,000[16]
Open
Boomj.com
Boomers and Generation Jones Open to age 30 and up
Broadcaster.com
Video sharing and webcam chat 322,715[19]
Open
Buzznet
Music and pop-culture 10,000,000[20]
Open
CafeMom
Mothers 1,250,000[22]
Open to moms and moms-to-be
Cake Financial
Investing
Open
Care2
Green living and social activism
9,961,947[24]
Open
Classmates.com
School, college, work and the military 50,000,000[25]
Open
Cloob
General. Popular in Iran.
Open
College Tonight
College students.
requires an e-mail address with an ".edu" ending
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Worldwide network for making connections between travelers and the local communities they visit. 871,049[27]
Open
CozyCot
Social networking site for women from South East Asia (especially Singapore), East Asia, North America and Australia. Open
DeviantART
Art community 9,040,962[29]
Open
DontStayIn
Clubbing (primarily UK)
Open
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Community and wiki around Fantasy and sci-fi.
185,000[31]
Open, approval needed
Eons.com
For baby boomers

Open to people 13 and older
Espinthebottle
Teen networking site offering photos, games, and relationships
Open to people 13 and older
Experience Project
Life experiences
Open
Facebook
General. 175,000,000[33]
Open to people 13 and older.
Faceparty
General. Popular UK. 200,000[35]
Invitation only to people 18 and older.
Faces.com
British teens
Open to people 13 and older
Fetlife
People who are into BDSM 32,500[37]
Open to people "of [legal] age to see adult content"
Flixster
Movies 63,000,000[39]
Open to people 13 and older
Flickr
Photo sharing, commenting, photography related networking, worldwide
Open
Fotolog
Photoblogging. Popular in South America and Spain. 20,000,000[42]
Open
Friends Reunited
UK based. School, college, work, sport and streets 19,000,000[44]
Open
Friendster
General. Popular in ASEAN countries.
90,000,000[46]
Open to people 16 and older.
Frühstückstreff
General
Open
Fubar
dating, an "online bar" for 18 and older 1,200,000[48]
Open
Gaia Online
Anime and games

Open to people 13 and older
Gather
Article, picture, and video sharing, as well as group discussions 465,000[50]
Open
Geni.com
Families, genealogy 15,000,000[51]
Open
gibLink.com
Business Promotion, Professional Connections, 45,000[52]
Open
Goodreads
Library cataloging, book lovers
Open
Gossipreport.com
Anonymous gossip
Open to people 16 and older
Grono.net
Poland

Open since 2009
GamerDNA
Online games
Open
Habbo
General for teens. Over 31 communities worldwide. Chat Room and user profiles.
117,000,000[54][55][56]
Open to people 13 and older
hi5
General. Popular in Angola, Portugal, Cyprus, Romania, Thailand, Central Africa and Latin America. 80,000,000[58]
Open to people 13 and older
Horseland
Horses 5,000,000[60]
Open to people 13 and older
Hospitality Club
Hospitality 328,629[62]
Open
Hyves
Most popular Dutch social network
8,000,000[63]
Open
imeem
Music, Video, Photos, Blogs 24,000,000[65]
Open
IRC-Galleria
Finland 505,000[67]
Open to Finnish speaking people 12 and older
Italki
Learning languages, and helping others to learn 350,000
Open
itsmy
Mobile community worldwide, blogging, friends, personal TV-shows 2,500,000.[68]

iWiW
Hungary
1,700,000[69]
Invite-only

Jaiku
General. Owned by Google.

You must request an invitation into the beta-test
Jammer Direct
Creative resource website
Open to the General Public
kaioo
General, nonprofit 30,000[70]

kaixin
General. In Simplified Chinese; caters for mainland China users
Open to the General Public
Last.fm
Music 21,000,000[71]
Open to people 13 and older
LibraryThing
Book lovers 400,000[73]
Open to people 13 and older
lifeknot
Shared interests, hobbies
Open to people 18 and older.
LinkedIn
General but mainly business 35,000,000[74]
Open
LiveJournal
Blogging 17,564,977[76]
Open (OpenID)

Livemocha
Languages. Used to learn and help others learn languages. 1,000,000[78]
Open
LunarStorm
Sweden [80]
Open
MEETin
General
Open
Meetup.com
General. Used to plan offline meetings for people interested in various activities.
Open to people 18 and older.
MiGente.com
Latinos
2,800,000[81]
Open
Mixi
Japan
20,936,509[83]
Invite-only

mobikade
mobile community, UK only
Open to people 18 and older
MocoSpace
mobile community, worldwide 3,000,000[85]
Open to people 14 and older
MOG
Music
Open to people 14 and older
Multiply
"Real world" relationships 10,000,000[86]
Open to people 13 and older
Muxlim
Muslim portal site 50,000[88]
Open to people 13 and older
MyChurch
Christian Churches 144,295[90]
Open
MyHeritage
family-oriented social network service
Open
MyLOL
General. Popular in the United States, Europe and Australia. 32,000[92]
Open to ages 13 and up.
MySpace
General. 253,145,404[94]
Open to ages 14 and up.
myYearbook
General 5,100,000[95]
Open to age 13 and up & Grades 9 and up
Nasza-klasa.pl
School, college and friends. Popular in Poland. 12,000,000[97]
Open
Netlog
General. Popular in Europe and Québec province. Formerly known as Facebox and Redbox. 36,000,000[98]
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Open to people 13 and older
Nettby
Norwegian Community.
Open
Nexopia
Canada 1,400,000[101]
Open to people 14 and older
Ning
Users create their own social websites and social networks
Open
Odnoklassniki.ru
General. Popular in Russia and former Soviet republics 30,000,000
Open
OkCupid
Social networking and dating
Open to people 18 and older
Orkut
Owned by Google. Popular in Brazil, Paraguay, India, Pakistan and Estonia. 67,000,000[104]
Open to people 18 and older, (Google login)

OneWorldTV
Not for Profit Video sharing and social networking aimed at people interested in social issues, development, environment, etc.
Open
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Gay/LGBTQ Community

Open
Passportstamp
Travel
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Collaborative platform for the world's Internetwork Experts

Invite-only, only Internet Experts
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Aggregator 15,000,000[106]
Open
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Swedish, Danish,Norwegian teenagers
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Online college community
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Invite-only while in beta

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Locating friends and family, keeping in touch 51,000,000[109]
Open
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Social network for scientific researchers 25,000
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Reverbnation
Social network for musician and bands 25,000
Open to people 16 and older
Ryze
Business 500,000[111]
Open
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Collaborative network site for scientists
By invitation, but can request an invitation
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Books
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Social Network in French-speaking world 22,000,000[112]
Open
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Open to people 13 and older.
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General 70,000,000[121]
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Online artistic community
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French subsidiary of Classmates.com 4,400,000[124]

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Travel and lifestyle 10,000,000[133]
Open to people 18 and older
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Open
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Questions and answers about anything and everything 50,000[137]
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20,600[139]
Open to people 18 and older
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Open
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Business (primarily Europe (Germany) and China) 6,000,000[143]
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UK Social Network (focus on data portability)
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out of your 1300 hundred posts hell out off all the posts on this board, THIS ONE speaks the truth like no other. ITs like spitting in the wind but weblo also received much more than 100 dollars for some states and also the same for the cities those numbers are a great base though

lol I want to see what hamp is going to say....

in all we paid for an overpriced page that you own now and can't sell now......

I see no reason to sell nor buy so F them I'll keep it as is a empty dead page....

PAY US WEBLO!!!!!!!!!!!

hmmm since we are lookin for money here 1300 posts..say..at .02 a post.....admin i think u owe me $26 for adding real internet value to your forum....dont you want to pay us for our content too?

YIKES>..just checked the new figures its now worth 281k...dam weblos tanking like a mother f

Daily Ads Revenue : $385.64-source websiteoulook.com

so in a month they are now pullin over 11,500
and the top members are earning $1 a day..timees maybe 10 members..so they are CUREENTLY pocketing a cool 11k a month....

Your bottom line doesn't take into account any of Weblo's expenses, such as:

Employee Wages/Salaries
Employee Benefits
Training
Hardware
Office Space
Internet
Utilities
Office Equipment
Advertising/Marketing
Travel
Software
Licenses/Permits
Security
Accounting/Payroll
Research

I'm not defending Weblo here, but your analysis is unrealistic and assumes that starting up, operating, and developing something like Weblo is free. More likely, member payouts are but a fraction of Weblo's expenses.

Director of Development Montreal QC Join to view
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Chief Financial Officer and Vice President Business Development Santa Monica CA Join to view
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i found 6 employees

office equipment?,,they have no office
travel?security,yeah i can see where they would need that

employees benefits etc,all of weblos work has been done recently by short term project workers in school in pakistan,so they have been able to pay them quite cheaply,,without benefits,ive seen around $12 an hour for most..and thats top end programmers over there..So sean got paid good im sure,and colin,they are gone

advertising marketing..gimme a break webloid,,,when was the last advert u saw..2006?

internet ,software etc,,all weblo is is software,,residing on Allianets server..this type of sfotware is readily available to anyone for around $119..ive done my rsearch on this...maybe some server/hosting cost daily...

YOU GUYS ARE JUST MAD THEY GOT SMART ON YOUR CLICK FRAUD!!
SITE WAY OVER BETA YOU GOT NO SCRIPT,HTML,FLASH,JAVA,COLD FUSHION,ETC NO HOW
EXCEPT WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED IN A FEW MONTHS.

YOUR JUST MAD YOU ARE NOTCASHING THOSE CLICK FRAUD CHECKS!!
NOT GE,NOT GM,AND NOT WEBLO FRAUD IS OVER.

NOW LETS GET CLEAN AND GO TO WORK!!

Hampton...

one more fals accusations ahmpton and youll b gettin a letter from my attorney.....wel im done talkin about it,,have fun,building the world...but while your sauntering around a subpar site..try ning.com and wetpaint.com on for size...they make it real simple for new mmbers to make a website..so weblos days are numbered...along with the fact that these medcicine accounts are html redirects by some hacker somewhere,which is in violation of adsesnse again...so...well..im sure your not sleepin much these days...sad part about it is im the one that found it,..weblo doesnt even know

GIFT ME YOUR CITIES AND END IT!!
I WOULD PAY BUT YOU DESTROYED YOUR OWN CITIES LOL!!!

YOUR DOWN TO 99 CASE'S OF BEER!!

WEBLOID IM HAVING A GREAT CUP OF COFFEE NOW I DRINK NANTUCKET ONE OF MY CITIES!!!
LOL

KEEP IN MIND

WHEN WEBLO TURNS AROUND AND FINDS NEW PARTNERS YOU WILL HAVE EGG ON YOUR FACE.

THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS THINK SCAMBLED OR OVEREASY!!!

LOL

ADMIN I COULD NOT WAKE YOU UP AT THE FIRE HOUSE YOU WHERE SLEEPING!!!
LOL

egg smeg,,will still be mayor so no biggie,,even if it turns around,,,at weblo you dont have to build,be a good quiet citizen,,u cna just hold forever empty pages and wait,,like 20 of the top mayors are doing....

ive already set my price 15k..for everything,,u rocky nr yavanna all pitch in and pool ur money so i can get the f outa here...

Weblo missed the boat. 45 days is typical turnaround for ad payments, although I expect that you are way underestimating their advertising revenue. They are automated now, they don't need auction commissions.

If their ads are converting 1/2 a percent they are lucky. They should drop the entire pay per click/adsense thing and move to pay per action/sale and give a reasonable cut of that. Would take care of the click fraud issues. Sure it would be a reset of the payout system, but they could afford to make it lucrative enough if they can line up enough marketers. An entire rethink of their financial model, one that might work fairly for everyone.

They took too long getting it off the ground, turnaround is possible but you can't start cutting people's checks and expect them to do anything to help you. Restructure maybe, large scale rate adjustments is another entirely.

Personally, my sites are very inactive at the moment. May look back at the model in a few months and see if there are angles I can use, but for the most part it is on perpetual hold. Getting into SEM, the numbers look good, see how it tests over the next month or so.

Building my domain portfolio, got 300 now. Concentrating on TV, .com and US.

There is money on the web. You guys know how to get traffic. Weblo has a decent engine for that, stop depending on them and just go around them.

later.

Those of you getting 50,000 clicks. If you paid for that traffic it would cost about $2500 if you were careful in your ad selections. If you weren't so careful it could be well over $100k to drive that much traffic.

You all fighting over the scraps. Since you rely on other people's content you aren't going to be able to generate that much with your own sites, at least using those tecniques.

There are advertisers that will give permission for "special" campaigns, which would fall within the scope of weblo. You should be all over that, weblo gives all the tools to quickly slap that kind of site together. If you can leverage them to be a bit more affiliate friendly (allow banner placement on news pages, that sort of thing) there might be some compromise. Weblo's marketing team should be lining those things up and setting up a place where you can go grab logo code, but if they won't do it, go do it yourselves.

The alternative is to find another engine or vehicle that suits your purposes. All sites including domains should be lifetime ownership. They should limit each domain name to one extension (of the buyers choice and changeable at will.) Currently existing duplicates would be grandfathered. This would take the time pressure off on making a site pay, and give a chance to actually add value.

Hampton's the bag holder, as are most of us. I know most of you perceive weblo as getting greedy, but I suspect that they were overpaying. An adjustment was probably in order, but they didn't handle it well and probably went too far in the other direction. Alienating users, particularly skilled ones is short sighted.

Another step that should be taken, is that old rates should apply up to (and slightly beyond) the paid membership level. Even if the current tiers are too high, they should give a reasonable opportunity to make back the investment. So if you buy a VIP membership, you should get full income up until the point where it is paid for, and a reasonable incentive to make money. As it is, why buy a VIP membership.

They also need to adjust the market. No one is going to buy a city if its going to lose money. Cities should get overrides on all assets (properties and domains) based on asset location and the member location at time of registration with weblo.

Baseline assets have to be potentially profitable, in and of themselves, if they expect people to generate quality content. I think they dropped the ball on it. Maybe when I've got 100k or so to invest I will build something better. Weblo should have been very profitable, and was briefly. Problem is, it still should be, for all parties involved. Very disappointing, but a valuable lesson in how not to do business.

Personally Weblo helped me learn a lot, so I'm not bitter. But the time has come to find other avenues to explore my abilities. Maybe will revisit Weblo when its worth doing again

see ya.

By the way. 50000 clicks at a 1/2% conversion rate (interested banner clicks) and a backend conversion rate of 2% should generate you about 25 sales at anywhere from ($1 to $250, with a median of about $20) is probably worth around $700 or so from the page owners perception.
If you got 60% at VIP that would make about 420/site.

If weblo were able to set up a decent advertiser program with the ability to change the referrer clicks by the current site owners ID, you would have a valid tradeable commodity in a developed site.

So ya, you were being overpaid. However now you are being way underpaid in my opinion.

Rethink. React. Rebuild.

Under this model a good site built around the right campaign could be less profitable or potentially much more profitable, depending on the affiliate.

Site layout flexibility could be leveraged to significantly increase conversion rates.

What they fail to realize is how much skill site builders like aarf and charleston bring in terms of generating traffic. By overcutting they are slicing their own throats. They need to get back to the original ideals, get everything in line with actual revenues and make it happen. Otherwise I will recruit you guys to build for one of my sites

See ya.

any day shaper,any day say the word and im ours...im carrying my building skills outside as we speak,so weblo is nothing but a past memory for me,and the only way ill return to build there is 1. they are bought out entirely and the execs replaced,,or 2..rocky gets on his hands and knees and says sorry..neother of which is going to happen..so weblo is my competition now...speakin of slicing throats,,where my dam jan 15th money...sure theyll stay open,,why not,,free ad money for as long as they arent caught and noone to pay anymore,,,their futureproblem is relavent content and civil suits,,tons of content providers are gettin highy agitated at seein their content copied directly by a company/business...for profit

Here's another interesting quantcast chart
http://www.quantcast.com/p-55gd7n3vj7fj6/traffic/
Weblo's actually measured data.
Ya their bot is a monster.

Interestingly, Febuary has seen a large decline in visits worldwide, imagine thats a result of the strike. About a 10% overall decline and a downward trend. Original content is key.

Another page shows their sources, almost all traffic coming from google, lots of interesting links on this page.

Wish I had the skills and the capital to get it done now, but I think 100k is probably in the ballpark to build a high quality similar site.